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Washington High School Boys Lacrosse Association

Meeting Notes 7/15/03

 

Washington Boys HS League
 

WASHINGTON HIGH SCHOOL BOYS LACROSSE ASSOCIATION

Minutes of July 15, 2003 Board Meeting

 

108: The Board meeting of the Washington High School Boys Lacrosse Association was held on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 7:00 P.M. at the offices of Steve Corley, Bellevue, Washington.  Present were Dave Low, Steve Corley, Brandon Fortier, Chris Long, Tony Olney and Gail Shelton.  Present for Lake Washington LC was Glen Beyer and for Eastside LC was Jim Anderson.   Absent were Vern Smith and Rob Hawley.

 

109: Dave explained the Board�s rationale when presented with the new team proposal from Lake Washington.  For several years it has been felt that there was an opportunity for growth on the Eastside � at least room for two teams.  It was not up to the League to do that so when the opportunity presented itself to start a second team the League was anxious to open the door for expansion.  The Board, admittedly, should have spoken to the Eastside people when the petition was presented and before a decision was made.  However, because we do not yet have a process in place, it allows the opportunity to go back and revisit the issue with a clean slate.

 

110: The Board feels there are enough schools and interest for at least two teams and has invited representatives from Lake Washington and Eastside to present their information.  If a solution cannot be reached mutually, the Board will have to review all the information and make a decision for the two teams.

 

111: Jim Anderson presented the information for Eastside.  He presented a map that showed exactly how many players come from which high schools for the Eastside team. Following are the points he made:

�        2003 team - 11 players from North Shore SD (Bothell, Woodinville, Inglemoor).

�        2003 team - 28 players from the Lake Washington SD (Redmond, Lake Washington, Juanita and Eastlake) with 16 from Eastlake.

�        They practice at Marymoor and play games at Eastlake.

�        Eastside LC has a Board of Directors, mission statement, by-laws etc.

�        Board is made up of 3 parents from Lake Washington, 3 parents from North Shore and 1 parent from Bellevue. 

�        Hired a non-parent coach.

�        Team is in good-standing with the League.

�        Previously, weren�t working with middle schools or the girl�s team, but are working on that.

�        Future plans: hope to move up to Div. I; start a Cascade team, as well as varsity and JV; start a 5th-6th grade team, focus on Eastlake H.S. where home games are played

�        Asking for respect as an existing team who hopes eventually to be an Eastlake HS team

�        Agree that a team should be developed in the North Shore SD.

Questions:

�      Are all seven schools 4A?  Yes

�      With 11 players in the North Shore SD, what are those parents and players doing to grow the game?  That hasn�t been the focus in the past.  As a Board member, Jim talked with the AD at Woodinville and the opportunity is there to grow lacrosse.

 

112:     Glen Beyer presented the information for Lake Washington.  Following are the points he made:

�      Agree with the Board that two teams should be formed on the Eastside.  With all 7 high schools being 4A, it is a goal to have a team at every high school.

�      The Eastside LC didn�t play any games in the North Shore SD and that is necessary to get the sport in front of students to grow the sport.

�      Eastside LC emphasizes the varsity program to the detriment of the JV � sees them as two separate teams.

�      50% of players on varsity are from the North Shore SD.

�      Lake Washington Board is made up of 5 voting members and 1 non-voting member � 3 parents from Eastlake, 1 parent from Redmond and 1 parent from the International School.  The coach is a non-voting member. 

�      Lake Washington Board represents all players in the District while the Eastside Board is split along school district lines.

�      LW Board agrees with the liberal grandfathering allowed by WHSBLA as it gives Eastside LC the ability to play together in the future.

�      Eastlake HS will be made available to both clubs for home games.

 

113: Steve noted that the League and the Board for several years have felt that the Eastside program was holding down growth of lacrosse.  With eleven players, there is a viable team of North Shore players.  The Board�s mandate is to grow the sport and forming a team in North Shore SD does that.

 

114: Tony suggested drawing the line at North Shore SD and effectively having one team at Eastlake set off alone and one team at Lake Washington that encompasses the other three teams from the SD. � Team 1 - Eastlake HS and Team 2 � LW, Juanita and Redmond.  The North Shore area would then form a third team.  It was felt that the best solution was a North Shore SD team and a Lake Washington SD team

 

115: Chris suggested that 40 players out of 7 school is not enough and wanted to know why there weren�t more players coming forward.  His question - �Where do we want to be in 3 years?�  We need to use this decision as a model for the future.  He asked Glen if he new how tough it was going to be starting a new team; the response was that Glen and the LW Board were prepared for the rough road ahead.  Chris� observation was that too many schools spread out feeding into the Eastside program is hurting the growth of lacrosse.  Our goal is to put lacrosse into individual schools. 

 

116: Brandon noted the distinction between Nathan Hale (which was based at Nathan Hale) spinning off Garfield and Roosevelt players.  Eastside was never centered at one school � it wasn�t the Eastlake LC.

 

117: A suggestion was made to split the teams so that Eastlake was one team and Lake Washington, Juanita, Redmond, Inglemoor, Woodinville and Bothell was the second team.

 

118: Another suggestion was to form two teams and let them recruit from all the schools � no boundaries.  It was decided that this was contrary to our mission and also we are currently using WIAA guidelines for boundaries as our blueprint for new clubs.

 

119: Glen said that as a compromise, they would entertain a reasonable number of new players from LWSD who want to play with friends at Eastside to be allowed to do so � juniors and seniors.  Eastside had commented (June 21 meeting) that part of their recruiting was to encourage current players to recruit friends to start playing lacrosse.

 

120: A decision was postponed until the Minutes could be sent to all Board members for review.  Then a final decision will be made and Dave will contact the two groups with the Board�s decision.

 

121:  The Board reviewed the information as presented � field availability to both teams if desired; middle school team draws from both North Shore SD and Lake Washington SD; looked at both rosters and the core group of North Shore players are on the Eastside LC.  Appears the decision originally made by the Board is still a sound decision although the addition of the compromise by LWLC regarding allowing friends to play with Eastside LC should be added. 

 

122 It was agreed that the decision would wait until all the Board members reviewed the Minutes.

 

123:  League structure was discussed, especially as it pertains to Division I and II.  A discussion followed regarding whether Div. I should increase by 2 teams or 4 teams.  The observation was made that the League cannot add 4-5 teams a year to Division II and add one team to Division I because Division II will become too large to manage.  The more teams in Division I, the less chance of a team going winless for the season. It was agreed that it would be several years before a formula for advancement of teams can be developed because of the huge growth the League is dealing with now.

 

124: MOTION   The following motion is to be decided by the Board by an email vote:

 

(1) 2004 Season � Increase Division I to 12 teams by moving the top 2 teams up from Division II, talking to potential Division II teams and issuing invitations to move up to Division I; or

 

(2) 2004 Season � Increase Division I to 10 teams by moving top two teams up from Division II

 

125:  The Cascade League was the subject of discussion.  The suitability of a championship game for the League was discussed.  Some Board members felt the League should be comprised of a Varsity and JV model with movement between Varsity and JV and the Cascade League is all other players.  Only the teams in Division I would have the numbers for Cascade teams.  With 12 teams in Division I, games could be scheduled for Varsity and JV games back-to-back.  Back-to-back games would reduce the complexity of scheduling both games and officials.  This will be tabled for further discussion.

 

126: The handbook outline prepared by Brandon was distributed.  Dave asked Board members to review it and get back to him if there were any further topics to be added.

 

127: The off-season play issue was discussed.  Tony said the off-season runs from the end of spring sports until the day fall sports begin � August 18th this year.  There is a situation throughout the League where some players cannot afford the summer league or the winter indoor league, which puts many teams at a disadvantage for off-season play.  Having the winter indoor league cost less or be team-driven would help the situation.  Having two or three days open for jamborees where all kids can play is preferable.

 

128:  MOTION The following motion is to be decided by the Board by an email vote:

 

            Do we allow limited off-season play?

 

129: Dave Low was nominated and elected to serve as President of the Board for the term of one year.

 

130: The meeting adjourned at 9:54 P.M.

 

                                                                                    Gail Shelton, Secretary